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Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Mon Aug 25, 2025 8:02 pm

Hi. I had my scoot dynoed by a highly skilled reputable 2 stroke tuner earlier in the year after running in. The scoot ran fine It took me various places inc up to Ayr for the euro. The final drive was slightly out, and whilst experimenting on this to find my current setting I thought I'd do a plug chop. The plug is way too lean!! So I had it re dynoed on Sat and the jetting was spot on, with the fueling a little on the rich side but the plug is still too lean.
I've checked all that that should be tight and it was, replaced the carb rubber but it was ok, checked fuel flow, cap breather, changed petrol pipe for increased int bore . I've checked the flywheel, woodruff key and stator which are all in the same position so the timing position hasn't altered (varitronic)
Could this lean plug be down to a fault with the CDI mapping going haywire?
I welcome any thoughts or advice.
Sorry for the long ramble.
Thank you
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Fast n Furious » Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:17 pm

You might just need to run a colder plug? Worth a try!
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:52 am

Fast n Furious wrote:You might just need to run a colder plug? Worth a try!

Thank you that's something I'd not considered I was using a NGK 8 so I'll try a 9.
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Rich Oswald » Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:27 am

Thackers wrote:
Fast n Furious wrote:You might just need to run a colder plug? Worth a try!

Thank you that's something I'd not considered I was using a NGK 8 so I'll try a 9.


Dave, Unless you are doing some long and fast motorway type runs, then a 9 will carbon up and eventually fail on you imo. TBH I hate NGK plugs, only Champion or Nippon Denso for me.

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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Binny » Tue Aug 26, 2025 11:24 am

Dave, Unless you are doing some long and fast motorway type runs, then a 9 will carbon up and eventually fail on you imo. TBH I hate NGK plugs, only Champion or Nippon Denso for me.

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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Fast n Furious » Tue Aug 26, 2025 4:57 pm

Yes.. An 8 plug is cold enough assuming that you are not running some ridiculously high compression ratio.
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:22 pm

Thanks for the advice fellas
The kit is the casa ss225, with LI150 gears and a 46 x 15 crown wheel/ sprocket . 30mm dellorto TSR EVO pipe. All fairly common I would think.
Point taken regards plug brand and number, I'll go back to the 8 and look into changing brands for the equivalent.
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Fast n Furious » Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:34 pm

Dave... can you be certain that your NGK plug is genuine? NGK is the most counterfeited plug brand out there!!!! Counterfeiters tend not to bother copying Champion or Denso.
Try using a Chamion N3 and see what difference it makes before pulling your hair out changing anything else.
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Rich Oswald » Tue Aug 26, 2025 7:15 pm

Thackers wrote:Thanks for the advice fellas
The kit is the casa ss225, with LI150 gears and a 46 x 15 crown wheel/ sprocket . 30mm dellorto TSR EVO pipe. All fairly common I would think.
Point taken regards plug brand and number, I'll go back to the 8 and look into changing brands for the equivalent.
Thanks again.


Champion N3 or Nippon Denso 24

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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Tue Aug 26, 2025 7:30 pm

Fast n Furious wrote:Dave... can you be certain that your NGK plug is genuine? NGK is the most counterfeited plug brand out there!!!! Counterfeiters tend not to bother copying Champion or Denso.
Try using a Chamion N3 and see what difference it makes before pulling your hair out changing anything else.

That is a very good point indeed, I can't remember where I got them but it was online. I thought the fake ngk plug thing was a thing of the past!! But I'm obviously mistaken.
I'm not saying mine are fake but changing the brand is easy enough and makes sense not to be ignored .
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby alex_hughes » Wed Aug 27, 2025 1:43 pm

I’ll be interested in how this pans out, please let us know.

For what it’s worth a club mate is suffering the same problem, my first thought was fake plug, but changing from NGK to Champion didn’t help him at all.
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Wed Aug 27, 2025 5:10 pm

alex_hughes wrote:I’ll be interested in how this pans out, please let us know.

For what it’s worth a club mate is suffering the same problem, my first thought was fake plug, but changing from NGK to Champion didn’t help him at all.

I will of course, I'll try post some pics up of the plug chops. Or anything I change or alter
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Re: Spark plug too light after dyno

Postby Thackers » Fri Aug 29, 2025 8:21 am

Hi Alex, I have sent you a P.M
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