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The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:15 am
by foremanbob
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"Hot wire HT lead holds the ignition charge then releases it in a fraction of a second, creating a extremely fast, exactly timed, intense charge to the spark plug electrode. Effects of such a precise spark are very positive on your combustion, further, pushing performance development to such a degree that powerful starts, more torque, heftier rpm development, a more precise combustion and cleaner emissions are the results."

Call me an old skeptic.... but.....

Oh and its £76 !!!

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:13 pm
by CHRIS in MARGATE
Normally an inline biro pen spring and a nail sawn in half to make an air gap.
People will buy these !

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:35 pm
by Wee Mark
Hey Bob, really weird, I found these tonight too searching for HT lead.....anyone got a recommendation for best HT lead maybe a bit less than £76!!!???
Cheers

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:37 pm
by a.lo
i thought that was the job of the CDI to release spark. if it needs delaying is your timing not correct?

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:55 pm
by foremanbob
Wee Mark wrote:Hey Bob, really weird, I found these tonight too searching for HT lead.....anyone got a recommendation for best HT lead maybe a bit less than £76!!!???
Cheers


The NGK Racing silicon leads are really good.... but to be honest with you not found a "bad" HT lead...

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 pm
by foremanbob
a.lo wrote:i thought that was the job of the CDI to release spark. if it needs delaying is your timing not correct?


Exactly....

The theory is that the energy is stored for Microseconds building a bigger more explosive spark.

The size of the airgap in your plug and the pressure in your cylinder determine when the spark can jump across the gap in the plug and ignite the fuel.

This means that there might be a less than optimal spark with a longer duration.

The lead stores the charge in the lead momentarily to build a higher potential, and then discharge at the optimal point across the gap... giving a bigger and shorter spark

The differences in timing are momentary... microseconds, and are not going to affect your timing position to that degree.

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:46 pm
by missing lynx
But is it 70 odd quids worth of improvement?

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:04 pm
by dickie
It's poppycock. The energy for the spark is held in a capacitor and released by a transistor. As it is discharged it flows through the low tension winding and is transformed by the high tension winding in the coil.

That's for electronic ignition but the principle of points is almost the same.

It just flows through the ht lead nowt else. If it were stored in the ht lead it would need to be in another capacitor which as it is less than 100% efficient would reduce the spark energy.

Maybe they're using simplified terminology and the ht lead has increased inductance? In which case it would simply remove the higher frequency components and possibly extend spark duration.

Most likely outcome is that you'll be a little poorer.

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:54 am
by Loneranger
Snake oil indeed!

Remember Splitfire spark plugs? Triple earth 'fingers' which claimed a better combustion of the mixture...........any spark will ignite it and the centre electrode had to discharge to somewhere so these plugs made no difference.

Stick with any good brand silicon HT lead and an NGK plug cap and you won't go far wrong.

Keep the faith.

Ady

Re: The latest snake oil? HOT WIRE HT Lead

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:14 pm
by xenia1
A plug lead of any sort is to merely carry current no more no less. Theres major motor manufacturers out there who spend millions on R&D and granted cars dont use plug leads any more (direct ignition pencil coils) but if these were any good they would have been put into production years ago with the corresponding media fanfare that theirs were better than the competition. Someones making a profit of around £75 on their £76 p.o.s product..