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casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:24 am
by lofty
Hi all..

after a short lay-up i cant get the bike started, after checking fuel i checked spark (nothing either visually, or by using finger/shock test)

here is what I have eliminated so far.. plug, cap, ht lead, ign switch and wiring, wiring from stator, stator continuity/resistance, earths, the connections to regulator and cdi look sound..

It was running last time it was used, so I am doubtful but maybe something has failed?

has anyone any experience of similar issues they may have had?

also, as a matter of interest, what triggers the spark in the flywheel? I can see what appears to be 4 magnets inside, but nothing that looks like a trigerry thing??

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 5:48 pm
by Toddy
lofty wrote:Hi all..

after a short lay-up i cant get the bike started, after checking fuel i checked spark (nothing either visually, or by using finger/shock test)

here is what I have eliminated so far.. plug, cap, ht lead, ign switch and wiring, wiring from stator, stator continuity/resistance, earths, the connections to regulator and cdi look sound..

It was running last time it was used, so I am doubtful but maybe something has failed?

has anyone any experience of similar issues they may have had?

also, as a matter of interest, what triggers the spark in the flywheel? I can see what appears to be 4 magnets inside, but nothing that looks like a trigerry thing??



It’s not something daft like an ignition switch earthing out ?

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:50 am
by lofty
unfortunately not :(

I am resigned to trying alternative CDI/regulator, but I dont have spares so need to open the wallet :cry:

I would have hoped with a 'modern' all singing and dancing and expensive setup life would be easier, but alas.......

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 2:11 pm
by bike grim
Which casatronic ? The new style or the older IDM 4 pole like the Varitronic ? If it’s the older type the spares for those are cheaper on German eBay - you can get coil pack that bolt to the back plate and also CDI units. Last time I looked were cheaper than cam lam

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 3:00 pm
by lofty
its the new 12 pole advance/retard version

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:47 pm
by Adam_Winstone
Strangely, when I first built mine I could not see or feel a spark from plug or HT but was told to try it with the plug a d lead fitted to the motor... and it fired up normally! Perhaps there is a little 'voodoo' with the new system?!

I believe that one of the earth points is very important too.

Good luck.

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:24 pm
by lofty
Thanks Adam,

voodoo eh, it kind of makes sense, i may have to find a goat to sacrifice.. I will post back my findings :lol:

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:59 pm
by lofty
yep it was voodoo..

not so much as a spark or a tingle from the HT, but put it all back together and kicked it over.. burst into life 3rd kick..

and goat curry for tea...

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:00 pm
by Toddy
lofty wrote:yep it was voodoo..

not so much as a spark or a tingle from the HT, but put it all back together and kicked it over.. burst into life 3rd kick..

and goat curry for tea...


Happy days not sure about the goat curry though :lol:

Re: casatronic no spark

PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:37 pm
by Adam_Winstone
Brilliant!

Thanks for the update. It's really good to hear that comments have helped others.

Result!