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Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:17 pm
by pauLI
Whats the best kit to buy? its for a standard 1968 sx150
Would like to get everything needed in 1 kit if possible
Any advice would be appreciated

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:22 pm
by burnside
Mugello 186 is tried and tested, got one in my S2 and no issues. Running it with Dellorto 26mm, remote air filter and Ancilotti clubman

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:50 pm
by Captain Pugwash
Forgetting the initial cost of buying a new SX electronic kit which I would see as a disadvantage, Is there any real advantage in fitting an electronic kit to a standard SX150 over the points system fitted to it as standard.
The original upgrade to earlier points system was to fit the later type double sprung points, and this was usually done to eliminate points bounce at higher revs when further tuning had increased rpm.
If you do high milages then there should be less servicing involved if you fit an electronic ignition, but for the cost maybe there's no real advantage. :?:

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:12 pm
by coaster
For me personally, points are fine when they are first set up with a new set and correctly adjusted. However, the contacts will erode due to arcing and the cam follower heal will wear. Both of those issues will gradually retard the ignition and reduce the time that the coil is charged within each stroke thus reducing the strength of the spark. I seem to remember regularly having to file/emery the contacts and adjust the gap to get the timing back although a lot of the time you did that as a precaution whenever it didn't start or run very well. I can't remember the recommended service intervals but I suspect it was every 300 miles or so. Changing points is fiddly and it is easy to assemble the wires and insulations incorrectly. Moisture and points do not mix so every time your engine cuts out in the rain you will always suspect the points.

Set against that is the fact that electronic kits can and do fail although with the use of quality parts such as BGM or Varitronic and careful installation failures can be greatly reduced and once set correctly they do not need further adjustment unless the stator or flywheel is changed for any reason.

I should point out that my early scootering with points was when I was 16/17 years old, I didn't own any proper tools and our scooters were held together with wood screws and twisted wire :oops:

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:57 pm
by mick094m
The plus side of the points and condenser system was that you could carry a spare pair easily in your pocket and the condenser could be wired up outside of the flywheel for easy replacement, not so easy carrying spares for an electronic system let alone the cost of a spare stator , but most have moved with the times with the improvements in reliability of the stators

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:21 pm
by pauLI
burnside wrote:Mugello 186 is tried and tested, got one in my S2 and no issues. Running it with Dellorto 26mm, remote air filter and Ancilotti clubman


was looking for an electronic ignition kit mate

went BGM in the end

Re: Electronic Ignition

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:13 pm
by dave411
Surely the main benifit of electronic ignition is the advance/retard.Is a better system than fixed timing as with points.